John 12:32 Does Jesus draw all to Himself?

John 12:32 Does Jesus draw all to Himself?

John 12:32 Draw all men to Myself on The Giving blog by Cheryl Schatz

Does Jesus draw all men to Himself?

In John 12:32 Jesus says that He will draw all men to Himself.

John 12:32 (NASB) “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

Are all people drawn to Jesus? We know for sure that not all people come to Jesus because we know that not all will believe in Him. However, Jesus said that He will draw ALL men to Himself. So what does Jesus mean in this context? Let’s look at His words to understand His meaning.

In John 12:27 states the purpose He came is for this hour so although He is troubled He will not ask to be saved from this hour.

John 12:27 (NASB) “Now My soul has become troubled; and what shall I say, ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour.

Jesus is speaking to a crowd of unbelievers (see verse 37) and in verse 30 Jesus says that the voice from heaven was for the benefit of this unbelieving crowd.

John 12:30 (NASB) Jesus answered and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for your sakes.

John 12:37 (NASB) But though He had performed so many signs before them, yet they were not believing in Him.

Jesus said that He came for this hour. Jesus came to die, yet so many of those who heard Him speak did not believe. They weren’t just unbelieving Jesus, but they did not believe God. Some say that their unbelief was what God predestined for them from all of eternity past. But there is a problem with this view because of the words of Jesus. Jesus speaks about drawing all, not just some. If God did not desire for all to come to faith, then Jesus would never draw all. John 12:32 is a dividing line between truth and error, but to some, it doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t seem to be true.

Jesus says that IF He is lifted up from the earth (verse 33 shows this is His death on the cross) that He WILL draw ALL men to Himself.

One Way – Two Drawing Together

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Was Jesus crucified on the cross? Yes! Then the condition is met.

YET….

No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws him. And… no one can come to the Father except through Jesus.

John 6:44 (NASB) “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 14:6 (NASB) Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

If Jesus is the source of people coming to the Father (God), then Jesus’ statement must mean that He will draw people to Himself as God. For Jesus IS God and a belief in God must precede a belief in Jesus. While the condition is met for Jesus to draw all people, there still exists a condition for those who will respond to the drawing.

The Two Conditions

Hebrews 11:6 (NASB) And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

Jesus is God’s revelation in the flesh. But the one who is able to respond to the drawing of Jesus to God must believe two things. The person must:

  1. Believe that God IS – that God exists.
  2. Believe that God responds to those who seek Him.

There it is. Jesus draws people to God, and those who will hear and respond and believe the revelation of God will be allowed to come to the Father. And those who believe the Father’s revelation about Jesus, will be allowed to come to Jesus. It is all about faith in the amount of revelation that one has been given. Those who have been given revelation about God, but who refuse to believe that revelation they are given will never come to Jesus. Jesus made it clear that those who refused to believe the Father’s word through Moses cannot believe in the words of life from Jesus.

John 5:46–47 (NASB)
46 “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
47 “But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Is Jesus drawing all men to Himself? We have to believe that He is doing that unless we believe that He was a liar. Do all men come to Jesus? The Scripture says that they do not. So what witness was Jesus giving?

The Cross reveals Jesus as the I AM

By His death and resurrection, and His inheriting all things, Jesus has the power and authority to have His will be done. It is all in the hands of Jesus as the I AM.

Matthew 11:27 (NASB) “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

This is Jesus:

Romans 1:19 (NASB) because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

Jesus made it evident to them. The pagans in the third world have been drawn to God by Jesus as He has revealed the nature of God to them. He promised to draw ALL men to Him. I believe that, and I believe Him. Do you?

23 thoughts on “John 12:32 Does Jesus draw all to Himself?

  1. Thanks, as always! I hadn’t looked at it that way. Sadly, a lot of people looking for God end up trapped in groups like JW’s, where the REAL Jesus is kept hidden from them.

    Calvinism, on the other hand, gives the CLOSEST COUNTERFEIT. It gives the Jesus who is God, manifest in the flesh, virgin born, and who rose, physically from the dead. Unfortunately this Jesus only died to save so many and no more. This unholy doctrine has slithered its way into the church because, foundationally, we agree. Jesus is GOD. The matter of WHO He came to save is the crux. ALL or few.

    The JW Jesus can’t save. The Calvinist Christ won’t. Or at least, not everyone the Bible says He wants to save.

  2. Well, I was really looking forward to this post, but I found the answer to be somewhat surface-level reasoning. Not to harp on you, Cheryl, because I know you’ve been very busy! Here are some possible issues that may be brought up about this passage:

    1) the word “all” (in “all” honesty…ha) really doesn’t always mean “all” in Scripture, and
    Calvinists will say that the mention of Gentiles previously in the context will say that
    “all” means Jews and Gentiles (not each and every individual.)

    2) If God’s plan to reach the Third World people is to show them He exits and that He
    has power via nature… then hasn’t that plan seemed a little inadequate, since the
    majority of people through the centuries don’t acknowledge God? (This seems to
    illustrate how necessarily essential supernatural intervention in the human mind must
    be?)

    3) It sounds as if you’re saying that a prerequisite to being drawn by Jesus is to
    acknowledge God-exists-via-creation first, so how does that adequately explain
    that Jesus promised that “every individual” would, in fact, be drawn to HIM? The
    only condition, as you pointed out, was fulfilled – that is, Jesus was lifted up.
    Therefore, whether one acknowledges God-via-creation or not, all should still be
    drawn to Jesus HIMSELF. This would imply a direct knowledge about who Jesus is
    and what He did for us – and 100% of the world’s population does not get this info.

    So…. I’m still at a loss for understanding how all are drawn to Jesus. Hope you understand what I mean. Thanks for your consideration.

  3. Robin,
    It is so good to see you thinking this one through. Let’s start with your first point.

    1) Actually “all” does mean “all” in the Scripture. I think you mean that it can mean something other than every single human being. That is true. But “all” means “all” of a category. The primary meaning is the individual components, every.

    John 12:32 All

    What category is Jesus talking about? If Jesus is talking about all Jews and Gentiles, then that is everyone for there is no other category. There is no option for the word to men only some of the category. For example, if the passage were talking about all of the crowd, then it means all of the category (the crowd). It wouldn’t mean all of the world. But in this context it cannot mean a subcategory of mankind as there is no subcategory mentioned. I do believe that He meant “all” as in all Jews and Gentiles because that means all people without exception.

    Secondly, it would not be like Jesus who gets all of His words from the Father to be imprecise. If He actually meant that He would draw some Gentiles and some Jews then He would have spoken precisely. In fact just a few chapters later, Jesus said that He would let His followers know what isn’t true.

    John 14:2 (NASB) “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

    Jesus said that if it were not so, He WOULD HAVE told them. Jesus is not interested in being misunderstood or being imprecise. He would have told us what He meant.

    Thirdly, the fact that the Gentiles had ALREADY started to come Jesus was a sign that they were being drawn to Jesus. So Jesus’ statement makes no sense that Gentiles would only be drawn to Him if He died.

    Let’s hash this one out before we go on to the other points. I believe that everything you have to say is worth answering and considering.

  4. Robin,

    So my challenge back to you is to show why you believe that Jesus meant only “some” Jews and only “some” Gentiles when He chose the word “all”. Couldn’t Jesus have just said what He meant if He was going to draw only “some”?

  5. gilliansnotebook,

    I think you have a good question as well.

    I believe Jesus when He said that He spoke the words that His Father gave to Him. The Father said what He means. Since He knows all things, He would have know that using the term “all” would mean people would believe Jesus would draw all human beings to Him. Because the Father does not deceive people, He would have used the term “some” or equivalent if He meant “some” of the Jews and “some” of the Gentiles.

    It may be a hard passage to understand, but I do not understand why the words of Jesus are not seen as meaning “all”. There is no limiting factor in the passage to remove the importance of the term “all”.

  6. I do wish this site had a edit button. Anywho, as far as the DRAWING, Jesus does want ALL to come to repentence (2 Peter 3:9) but not everyone who is offered Christ’s salvation will respond favorably. Ideally, when movies come out, the movie’s producers, not to mention the theater owners would love every member of a city’s population to see said movie. Ka-CHING! But not everyone will want to see said movie, even if everyone had the money to go to the movies.

    Of course salvation is eternally better than a movie, but Jesus will not drag anyone, kicking and screaming, into heaven. The rich young ruler had a choice; Jesus or riches? The invite is on the table for all (John 4:42, 1Tim 2:4-6, 2 Cor 5:12-15, 1 John 4:14) Romans 2:11 and 1Tim 5:21 talks about the sin of partiality. How could God tell angels and humanity NOT to play favors if He, himself is that very thing?

  7. Robin,

    In your second point you said:

    2) If God’s plan to reach the Third World people is to show them He exits and that He has power via nature… then hasn’t that plan seemed a little inadequate, since the majority of people through the centuries don’t acknowledge God? (This seems to illustrate how necessarily essential supernatural intervention in the human mind must
    be?)

    Robin, I encourage you to trust what the Scripture says without putting it through a Calvinist pair of eye glasses.

    First of all if Jesus said that He would draw all to Him, it doesn’t mean that we have to understand fully how He can do that, but to just believe Him and take Him at His word. Let’s look at Romans 10:13-18 for confirmation.

    Romans 10:13–15 (NASB)
    13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
    14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
    15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”

    In these verses, God says that it is those who call on the name of the LORD who will be saved. He doesn’t say that it is the ones who are pre-chosen that will be saved. The next verses (14, 15) show that faith will ultimately come down to the sending of the messengers. Who is the one who sends? Is it not God Himself? Is not God ultimately responsible as Lord of the harvest to send out the laborers?

    Then in Romans 10:16-18 Isaiah is quoted as asking who has believed their report?

    Romans 10:16–18 (NASB)
    16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”
    17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
    18 But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; “THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”

    Who has believed their report? It can’t be said that they have never heard the word of Christ since verse 18 says they HAVE heard and their voice has gone out into ALL the earth! Then look at the next few verses:

    Romans 10:19–21 (NASB)
    19 But I say, surely Israel did not know, did they? First Moses says, “I WILL MAKE YOU JEALOUS BY THAT WHICH IS NOT A NATION, BY A NATION WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WILL I ANGER YOU.”
    20 And Isaiah is very bold and says, “I WAS FOUND BY THOSE WHO DID NOT SEEK ME, I BECAME MANIFEST TO THOSE WHO DID NOT ASK FOR ME.”
    21 But as for Israel He says, “ALL THE DAY LONG I HAVE STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS TO A DISOBEDIENT AND OBSTINATE PEOPLE.”

    Here the LORD is said to be found by those who were not seeking Him. He manifested Himself to those who did not ask for Him. And as for Israel He draws them by saying that all day long He stretched out His hands to the disobedient and obstinate people.

    He has promised to draw all, even those who have never heard of Him and even those tho have heard of Him but who are disobedient. I believe that eternity will show us the amazing ways that He drew the lost, yet they turned their backs on the revelation that He gave them.

    Do I believe Jesus when He said that He would draw all to Himself? Yes, I do and I encourage you to accept His words first and then seek to understand. Do not say that He has failed to do as He said. Believe Him and wait for the evidence in eternity. The failure of men to believe is not His failure. God is not limited by our sin or by our unbelief.

  8. Robin, on your third point you said:

    It sounds as if you’re saying that a prerequisite to being drawn by Jesus is to acknowledge God-exists-via-creation first, so how does that adequately explain
    that Jesus promised that “every individual” would, in fact, be drawn to HIM?

    No, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that in order for one to come to God that one must FIRST believe that He exists and that He rewards those who seek Him. I did not say that in order to be drawn by Jesus one must first acknowledge these two things. Do you see the difference?

    You also said:

    The only condition, as you pointed out, was fulfilled – that is, Jesus was lifted up. Therefore, whether one acknowledges God-via-creation or not, all should still be
    drawn to Jesus HIMSELF. This would imply a direct knowledge about who Jesus is and what He did for us – and 100% of the world’s population does not get this info.

    No! I would imply a direct revelation of God who is Jesus. In order to come to God, one needs to believe 2 things about Him. That is what the Scripture says and I accept it without having to deny any part of what He said. And in order to come to Jesus one needs to believe God the Father and what He said about Jesus. One leads to another when each revelation is revealed and believed. But the revelation of Jesus is not the only way that people are drawn to Jesus. They are first drawn to Him as God!! It has to happen in this order, because God said so. The fact is that the majority of the people in the third world, and in our western civilization to not come to Jesus. They refuse the revelation that they have been given.

    And, those who are willing to hear can still hear the gospel preached even if they have never heard of Jesus before. Revelation 14:6 says that the gospel is proclaimed by an angel. Today there are many who have given a witness that they were in an area where they had no gospel, but they had visions and dreams of Jesus and have come to a true faith in Him. We may not understand this because we have the gospel so readily available here, but it appears that from the Scriptures God will send out messengers of one kind or another to those who will respond to Him in faith. I think we will be amazed in eternity at the ways that He was able to get the gospel into places where it seemed to be completely closed to the good news.

    The bottom line here seems to be, will we accept the testimony of the Father that He gave to Jesus to say? Will Jesus draw all men to Him? Whether you can or cannot understand how this will be done, I hope that all who read these words will say that the testimony of the Father and the testimony of Jesus is true. He WILL draw all men to Himself.

  9. gilliansnotebook,

    I added an edit comment plugin that will allow a commenter to edit their comments for a short time. Hopefully it works on my blog. Let me know if it works for you.

  10. Thanks, Cheryl! You didn’t have to but so glad you did. Otherwise, I’d end up making a hundred posts.

    Dear woman, you are SO brave to tackle the whole religion of Calvinism. It’s TRAGIC that people even want to believe the idea that Christ came to save only a segment of humanity.

    I think I’ve mentioned, before, I’ve gotten into arguements with five point Calvinists on the issue of what they would term LIMITED ATONEMENT. I think I even YELLED in ALL CAPS, at Tom McGovern when he said that 2 Peter 3:9 only applied to the ‘ELECT’. I said, “SO, IT DOESN’T MATTER TO YOU THAT YOUR BEST FRIEND OR PARENTS OR BROTHER OR SISTER, OR ALL OF THEM MIGHT NOT BE GOING TO HEAVEN BECAUSE GOD DECIDED THEY WOULD NOT BE AMONG THE ‘ELECT’ ?!?!?!?!” I mean I had a Cow and a calf!

    So, I need to ask Robin about 1 Tim 2:4-6, John 4:42, Romans 2:11, 1 Tim 5:21, 1 John 4:14 . If Jesus only intended to save so many, doesn’t it bother you? No one has free will. God decides who He’s going to save and the rest of humanity can go to hell. Literally. Does that sound like a God you want to believe in?

    I may have asked this before, and I apologize if I’m repeating myself, but it all comes down to the NATURE of GOD. Calvinists are fond of saying ‘God is SOVEREIGN’. So? Hitler was ‘SOVEREIGN’ in Germany. He had the power to murder millions of people just because he didn’t like them. He had the power to close businesses of Jewish business owners and arrest people for no reason. That’s Power. That’s authority. And we see that the nature of the man governs his actions.

    1 John 4:7,8 says God is LOVE. Well, pardon me if you’re NOT a Dave Hunt ‘fan’, Robin, but “What LOVE IS THIS?” What kind of LOVE condemns the larger segment of humanity to eternal damnation without giving them a choice to decide whether or not to accept the offer of salvation?

  11. Good point, Brad. God can hardly judge those he pre-determined NOT to save. That would have been HIS choice. To judge those who don’t have a choice to accept or refuse the offer of salvation is WRONG.

  12. Hello, Cheryl (and Gillian and Brad). What a great iron sharpens iron discussion. Yesterday, I read Mark 12:26 and was reminded that Jesus hinged his whole argument with the Sadducees on the mere tense of a verb. Thus, words in Scripture are extremely important, as you pointed out, and even a little word like “all” deserves attention.

    Let’s use the definition you provided: “in totality with focus on its individual components.” If the definition is applied to “all who take the sword will perish by it,” we would interpret it as “the totality of individual persons who take up swords will (each) perish by them.” Of course, that can’t be a true statement. However, it is true that “some” of the people who take up swords will perish by them.

    If the John 12 passage refers to the categories of Jews and Gentiles, does it then follow that every individual of the Jews and Gentiles will be drawn? I’m not bringing our other beliefs in here – I’m just scrutinizing whether this particular verse, standing on its own two feet, MAY properly be interpreted to mean a “subset” of individuals (i.e. some) of Jews and Gentiles will be drawn?

    As to the question, why didn’t Jesus just use the word “some” instead of all, I would think that if the context goes something like 1) Jews welcome Jesus with “Hosanna” 2) a group of Gentiles wish to see Jesus 3) Jesus says now is the time He will be glorified 4) Jesus states He will draw “all” – that Jesus COULD BE referring to the fact that all people groups will be drawn. To simplify, we’ve got: Jews, Gentiles, Glory, and “All are drawn.” It’s at least plausible in my thinking, because of the context, that Jesus could be speaking of “peoples.” This seems consistent enough with the Abrahamic covenant in which all nations are blessed, to Psalm 2, “Ask of Me and I will give the nations…” to “go make disciples of all nations,” right on through history to Rev. 5:9,10 when “all tribes, peoples, tongues and nations” are represented in heaven. In other words, God often speaks about salvation in terms of groups and nations.

    Just seeking to rightly interpret this particular verse of John 12:32, trying my best to see all points of view, and to approach it as unbiased as possible. No easy task!

  13. Hi Robin;

    The problem with looking at Salvation from a CALVINIST perspective at all is just as dangerous as looking at the deity of Christ with a Watchtower perspective. Your spiritual sight is warbled.

    Jesus invited the rich young ruler to follow Him, but the man just walked away; choosing worldly goods over God’s salvation. You’ll notice Jesus didn’t grab this guy by the shirt collar and say, “You’re one of the ELECT and you’re going to be saved whether you want to or not!” This man had a choice. But choices have consequences.

    I’ve asked before but I think it bears repeating; If you put exclusions to God’s invite to salvation, then how do you know if you’re saved or excluded? Or what if God chose to EXCLUDE you?

    2 Cor 11:3 says, “But I’m afraid for you, children, for just as Eve was deceived by the craftiness of the enemy, so your minds might be lead away from the simplicity that is in Christ. ….” Simplicity has been translated as purity and devotion, but I like the word that suggests that the Gospel of Christ can be understood, in plainest language, by a pre-schooler.

    Q: Do you believe in the verse WHOSOEVER WILL MAY COME….? Or John 3:16,17

    WILL is the key word. “If anyone wills to do His will…” Again, there’s a choice to be made and GOD offers the choice.

    Likewise, when Jesus said WORLD, He meant every citizen of the world. Then, now and in the future. Of course, believers have to share that love and GOOD NEWS but in doing so, we don’t discriminate. ALL are just as entitled to receive this good news as we were.

    And NO ONE knew this better than the Apostle Paul (formerly Saul of Tarsus) . He called himself the chiefest of sinners and will forever be grateful that God saved him, on the road to Damascus rather than just zap him on the spot, which He could have done; given all Saul had done to His people up that point. God gave Saul the choice; Saul could harden his heart to any entreaty and warning of soon judgement, or stop the killing and follow Him. Under the circumstances, it was a pretty easy choice. But I think Paul would look back on that day, for the rest of his life, amazed that he was even given the choice.

  14. Some say that “draw” equals “actually arriving.” This would seem to negate the “coming.” I note that “draw” and “come” are two different words with two different spellings and two different definitions…even in English…this is also related to John 6 because of the link of the word “draw…”

  15. Robin,
    I agree that iron sharpening iron is a good thing. I have learned from people who were solidly against me in other areas when they showed me something that I had missed. When I listened to what they had to say, it helped me clear up some loose string and surprisingly made my argument even stronger. I believe that body of Christ needs each one as God has not given any one of us all of His gifts. We are meant to minister to one another and to learn from one another.

    I agree that the tense of a verb is very important and should not be missed. We want to make sure that we understand what the author is saying, and not try to fit it into our own little box. Robin, you said that Jesus could not have meant “all” in Matthew 26:52 because it wasn’t true.

    Let’s use the definition you provided: “in totality with focus on its individual components.” If the definition is applied to “all who take the sword will perish by it,” we would interpret it as “the totality of individual persons who take up swords will (each) perish by them.” Of course, that can’t be a true statement. However, it is true that “some” of the people who take up swords will perish by them.

    I don’t agree. Jesus’ words are always true and He spoke the truth or else explained when His words had a spiritual meaning and were being misunderstood. When Jesus said “all” in Matthew 26:52, He meant all.

    Matthew 26:52 (NASB) Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.

    Jesus is not talking about those who just wield the sword. He is using an idiom that has a specific meaning. “To take the sword” is used for rashly usurping magisterial power instead of giving obedience and subjection to God.

    Take the sword Matthew 26:52 on The Giving Blog by Cheryl Schatz

    Are all those who refuse to give obedience and subjection to God, but take their own vengeance into their own hands – will all of these be killed with the sword? Jesus said they would and He gave a second witness. The testimony of Jesus is given in the book of Revelation.

    Revelation 13:10 (NASB) If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

    His testimony is that God’s justice will bring an eye for an eye and the saints can count on that. Also in Revelation 19:15 He is said to be the one who measures out the wrath of God and the sharp sword is mentioned as the way He accomplishes God’s wrath.

    Revelation 19:15 (NASB) From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

    Revelation 1:16 (NASB) In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength.

    Do I believe that Jesus meant “all” in Matthew 26:52? Yes, I believe He meant exactly what He said. I believe He meant “all” and the perishing is the judgment that He will do in the future. All judgment is given for Him to accomplish as He is the Son of man and the sword from His mouth is how He will slay the wicked.

    I like how Paul said it in Romans when he was responding to those who were accusing God of not being faithful to His own words.

    Romans 3:4 (NASB) May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, “THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED.”

    Robin, if you have biblical evidence for Matthew 26:52 that Jesus said “all” but the Father really meant just “some”, I would be very interested to read your reasoning. Until I am convinced from the Scriptures, I stand on Matthew 26:52 and John 12:32 that all means all.

  16. Brad,
    You said:

    Some say that “draw” equals “actually arriving.” This would seem to negate the “coming.” I note that “draw” and “come” are two different words with two different spellings and two different definitions…even in English…this is also related to John 6 because of the link of the word “draw…”

    Exactly! That is how I see it too.

  17. The father was handing the Jews over to Jesus. They didn’t believe in Jesus. Jesus was trying to convince them of who He was, the Messiah. Previously Jews were drawn to the father by the Law of Moses, which they didn’t do very well at keeping. Now Jesus is saying you are still drawn to the father, but it will be through me not the Mosaic Law. It has nothing to do with a calvinistic view of predestination. And they will be drawn to Him through His Holy Spirit now.

  18. Jasen, welcome to The Giving blog.

    I do think you are conflating the giving of people to Jesus and the drawing of people to Jesus. People who are GIVEN TO Jesus believe in the Father. People who are DRAWN to Jesus are not necessarily believers.

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